• He lived in the neighborhood since 1981; his property is 2.5 acres
• There is one well on the property
• The property was bought in 1978; and a well was drilled
• Original well was 400ft deep
• On Decmeber 11th, 2010 the well was deepened to 800ft
• Static level is @ 272 ft
• Pump is @ 575 ft; water is delivered to a storage tank (7,500 gal)
• 1981 Q=12gal/min
  2010 Q=1 gal/min
  2012 Q=25 gal/min
• Pumps 3 hr/day
• 1980 the well was flowing under artesian conditions for 4 months, because of high precipitiation
• The ground water has ~800ppm of solids
• There are about 151 trees on the property: 14 citrus trees, 125 grapes, 12 others
• The water is pumped regularly to fill up the storage tank; he uses two pressure pumps for the house
• The water is potable; has a metallic taste.
• The water is too salty - avocados cannot be grown
• The static evel for the original well was @ 15ft
• He claims that the water on the other side of the valley is saltier (his neighbor who payed for chemical analysis told him)
• In 1990 there was a water board meeting - the wells in the area are drying out
• In 2009 the level of water was extremly low, due to a an extensive pumping by Maderas (for testing purposes); the well depth was 273 in that year
• In 1996 due to a test well drilling (well #6), bubbles appeared in the potable water
• After he dippened the well, the content of iron in water increased shurply. A lot of red stains are detected on the house appliences
• 478ft right now @ pump
• 258dft statis level
• 807ft well depth
• pump is @ 478ft
• static level has risen 80ft after the deepening of the well
• 20120303 9:37 the water level was 269.2 ft (a slight increase due to the recent rain event)
• The water level is measured every week. The information on water levels is available.
• There is a 3 microne filter in place for capturing sediments.

• Lives in the neighborhood since 1979
• Todays depth at well is 300 ft
• This morning at 8:am he measured the water level to be 297.9ft.
• At 9:55am the level was 298.8. He lost 1ft of water in 2 hours.
• Thw well in his property was put together ~1976-77. when he bought the property in 1979 the well was already operating there.
• Origina pump was 250ft deep. The pump was @240ft.
• In 1995 the well was deepened to 612ft.
• The water from the well is potable.
• He has the city water, and the well water. He uses the well wter for irrigation, and the city water for drinking.
• He pays around 80$/2 months for the city water (3 people in the household)
• The well is 6" in diameter
• The rates were: 6 gal/min originally; 2 gal/min before the deepening; 30gal/min after the deepening;
• The new pump is @ 370ft; the static level is 300ft
• He complains that if the water level goes down, he will have to buy new equipment.
• He irrigates the trees: 62 citrus trees; 11 avocado trees; several oranges, lemons, peaches, and plums
• It seams that there is less available water on the northern side of the valley. There is a great variability. The south side has more abundance of water, and the nothern side has less.
• Salinity issue: Mr.Mayers might not know how to grow avocados. Water qulity shouldn't make a difference for avocados. There is more to it.
• No apperant problems of salinity at this time.
• Avocados like 100ppm or less of solids in water. If salts accumulate, than avocado leaves start to burn.
• Laste year there was a lot of rain, so salts were leached out from the soil, and this year we have a record growth of avocados.
• Price of avocado varies with precipitation. The more precipitation, the less is the price.(per Frank Vaplon)

• Originall well on his property was built in 1975. Depth=280ft, static level was 270ft.
• This well was clogged later, because he drove the well himself, and equipment was lost.
• He run out of water in August 2010.
• He redrilled the well in 2010 to 610 ft. Static levle is at 278.7ft. The diameter is 6.5"
• Now it delivers 34.5 gal/min
• He uses a tank to store the water.
• No city water is on the property.
• If the previou well would not be deepened, he wouldn't have any water.
• The new well cost him ~20,000$ (out of pocket expenses)

• Live in the neighborhood since 2000
• In 2007 due to fires in the area his house was butnet, with an exception of the small pool house. He rebuilt his house since.
• He is totally dependent on the groundwater
• He has about 15 fruit trees on the property
• The original well was 900 ft deep
• After five years of use he had to deepen his well in 2006 to 1200 ft
• The cost of the well was around $20.000
• Well static levels:
  in 2000 ~700 ft
  in 2007 ~800 ft
• He was not affected by the 2009 well testing by Maderas
• A house on the hill did a lot of hydro improvements, and this caused problems with runoff and sediment transport to his neighboor's property
• If his current setup doesn't work he will seriously think of hooking up to the city water, which will cost him about $20.000
• He has solar panels at home
• He used to pay $450/month per electricity
• Now he pays $200/year for electricity
• If he runs out of water he dies
• He doesn't mind if Maderas use some groundwater, but he needs to have a base flow
• Thompson Creek was running for 5 months last year, it replenishes groundwater in the vicinity

• The family was living in the neighborhood for around 30 years
• They use only groundwater. They don't have city water
• They have one well
• They drilled the first well in 1990, when they moved here. They installed a water tank
• 2002 the same well was deepened
• In 2008 after the fires they had to install a new larger water tank
• Some crap comes out of the bathroom. It looks like small rock particles
• If they don't have a well, they are done!
• They use the same water for irrigation and for drinking.
• They have about 40 trees (peach, grapefruit, avocado)
• The water tastes bad. They use a softener.
• If she doesn't have a well water she will not be able to afford this place
• It will cost around $35.000 for bringing the city water, and ~$3.000/ month for pumping it here, since her house is on the hill
• Water is a life issue
• We don't have any other way! It is crazy!
• Their family are polish immigrants, they built this house and they want to keep it in the family
• She lives with her mother and a sun. Her mother is 84 years old. His father died recently, and he asked his daughter to keep the house in the family
• Every week there is a measure of wells. 11 ft was a drop in water for 2 months period (Januaty and February), and it is a recharge time of the year.Frank Vaplon measure the water level in the wells
• Sediment in the water is due to cracks, and it is dameging to the machinery (laundary)
• She worries evry single day. It has been like this for three years now.
• Law of the land- individual owners have priority over businesses

• Jessica is Pam's and Tom's daughter. Justin is her husband.
• They have been living here for two years
• Originally there were 3 wells in the neighborhood
• Well A is very old, it was hand dug. In the past water was near the surface ~20 ft deep (an indication that there were a lot of water in the past)
• They don't have a city water. They are not connected to the grid.
• The well can not be measured, it was not set up for that.
• There is no history of the well, no numbers, no information.
• So far there have not been any problems. They have water.
• Well C is non operational. It is abandoned.
  
  33 ^o 2' 9.9"
  117 ^o 0' 44.4"
  
  
• They have two 5.000 gal tanks
• They are concerned about the future, but no problems at this moment. However, she really doesn't know the numbers
• The water situation is chancy, beacuse of the fractured rock aquifer
• She likes it here, and she wants to stay here

• He bought this property in 1996
• There are two (2) well on the property
• First well was drilled in 1996
• Second well was drilled in 2000
• The wells are 6" diameter and down become 4"
• He pumps right now ~15gal/min. The wells are 1000 ft deep, and the pumps are @ 800 ft
• When they were drilling they didn't hit water until 600 ft
• He doesn't measure the wells
• He has two 5.000 gal tanks to store the water
• He hasn't have any problems with water so far.
• He has an old stone reservoir, built in 1920's. It was used for irrigation (V=250,000 gal). In 2007 fire burnet all the irrigation pipes, and this reservoir is not used anymore. He fills it only a little at the bottom.
• He has a big law suit with his neighboors at the top (for 4 years now).
• 10 lots were built up there. Only one house built. This development created a lot of drainage problems.
• His property was filled with silt.
• The above mentioned development has an access road to it. They have curb, gutter, and brow ditch there. Water doesn't percolate and brings a lot of sediment.
• Construction started in april 2007, his pond was filled with silt in February 2008.
• There are 2 sides of the hill which drain to his property. One is clear water, and another is muddy
• He has his own theory about the situation with Maderas:
  
  Nobody knows about the groundwater. Predicament- water in lake Poway gives water to the neighborhood. Lake Poway is leaking, the theory is that the bottom of the lake is very rocky. City of Poway can do a water balance. Water around here is redirected into the creek direcylt, no seepage happens, beacuase it is redirected (concrete, asphalt, and small hydraulic structures)
• He doesn't have a connection to the city water. He relyes completly on the groundwater
• He tested the quality of water. It is good. He installed a filter in the house, because it is just what he wanted to do
• They have a few fruit trees ~10 trees.
• They have 300 trees. And they don't irrigate them.
• His property is 23 acres.
• He has a lot of oil trees. He makes olive iol.
• He doesn't want to live, but he thinks that he will leave to Connecticut in around 5 years. He wants to wait and see what happens
• He has a spring in his property:
  
  33 ^o 2' 3.2"
  117 ^o 0' 41.7"

• They have beeen living here for 25 years
• They posses important materiasl about the historical background of the water issues in the area
• They have 3 wells in the property
• One well was hand dug. It is 70 ft deep, and 5 ft in diameter. This well has a gravel pat. It produces water sparingly. This well is not connected to others.
• In 1974 another well was frilled and lost.It has a 10" pipe.This well is cemented by now
• Third well is dry as well.It was used for 20-yrs (1974-1990's). Used to give 80 gal/min, and it was 210 ft deep
• The hand dug well is the only well working. Other wells are drey, and they are about 200 ft deep
• Melone was using a lot of water for irrigation of his trees (avocado)
• Ramona reservouir was filled woth water, and the cracks on the bottom were grouted (to hold the water)
• The above mentioned events caused the drop in griund water level of 1ft/day in the 1990's
• There is apperently a high salt content in the water. Melone doesn't want to use it. He gets his water fromt he reservouir, and he has a golf course and a lake on his property
• Monteleones have the city water. They use it for their house.
• They also have ocasional water from the small hand dug well, which they use solely for irrigation
• They have a box of historical data about daily water use
• They drilled a new well, but they didn't get any water
• There has no been any analysis of the water. But they say that the water is good. They don't have any filters.
• There was a scary situation in the region. A few years ago there were two people who dies from the brain cnacer at the same month
• They have a 10.000 gal tank to hold the well water for domestic use
• They payed ~10K for the city water
• Riparian info: Creek used to flow 6 months of the year at least; not anymore; many oaks has died after the creek went dry
• They atribute it due to Ramona Reservouir construction and Melone's excessive pumping
• There is 2 the amount of rain here, but trees were lost
• Water Rights in CA: whover sucks the most water- has a right
• People who own Maderas used to plan to build condos here
• They don't want Maderas to go bankrupt, but they don't them to drain the neighborhood
• They steal the groundwater waters. Several trees (oaks) died after the golf course drilled more wells
• Riparian vegetation was hit hard in recent years by: droughts, fire, and groundwater usage
• Pam has a box of photos and papers of good/related information
• They like the golf course, and they frequently go to eat in their restaurant
• Dry well coordinates:
  33 ^o 2' 24.0"
  117 ^o 0' 54.1"
• The main fracture is @ 205 ft deep

• They have been living here for ~21 years
• They have one well. It was built when they bought the property
• The well: 6" diameter; 580' deep; produces 50 gal/min; pump is @ 500'
• Starting the 2010, the pump would ocasionaly stop, because there was no water to pump (pump shuts off when there is air only)
• There were periods of stopping and going
• It used to take 1/2 days to fill the 10.000 gal tank per day, now it takes 2/3 days
• They don't have any fruit trees
• They use city water for the house, and the well water for irrigation
• When Maderas came, they brought the city water
• They pay about 150$/bimonthly
• They might have some information about the water taste (minerals)

• His family bought this property in 1969
• A=40ac (4 lots of 10ac)
• They used to have many fruit trees. The fire burnet everythings, including the house
• He has a well, and he has a connection to the city water
• The well has been sketchy. He only uses city water now
• They drilled the well in the property in the 1970: depth=120'; Q=6 gal/min
• They expended the well by using dynamite
• In the old days the static level was 10 ft; You could see the water in the well
• The first house was supported solely on groundwater untill 1994.
• He didn't need to deepen the well
• He lost a pump after 30-yr of work.
• 1996 everything went to hell, the water became sketchy
• $15K/parcel of city water
• $60K/4 parcels to supply the water line
• He uses city water since 1996
• Difference in taste is not significant, but it is better for the appliances
• He has a 7" pipe
• When the well works, he pupms the water to the tank, and stores it. He uses this water for irrigation.
• This is not a deep well water
• This water is collected from the surface, since he is situated in the ball
• Befor they bought the property, the Thompson Creek was full of water
• He pays $120/month for the city water
• As soon as the golf course moved in, the problems started
• There was no choice about the city water
• He has solar power, and he doesn't pay any electricity. He gets some money back at the end of the year

• His family bought this property in 1969
• They bought the property in 1970
• The well was drilled in 1972/73 it is 125 ft deep
• They built the house in 1980
• Originally the static level of the well was at the ground during wet season
• In 2002 the City of Poway brought the water tot he neighborhood. There was a vote on that
• By now, three or four years the well was sketchy
• 10/12 gal/min was originally
• There was a lot of minerals in water, and an iron bacteria
• Because of bacteria things became red with time
• In 1979 the well was redrilled till 310 ft
• The pump was at 270 ft
• It was producing @ 20 gal/min
• 1987 it was very dry. And they had to stop irrigation, since they were running out of water
• They had to use less water for irrigation until 2002 (when the city water was put)
• They pay for water ~$40/month
• For the last 2 months one pipe was frozen and broken they don't use well water anymore
• They had 12 citrus trees. Now they have 4 trees. Fire distroyed almost all the landscaping
• The well is 6" in diameter.
• Their property is 2.5 acres
• They want to repair the well, and use it for irrigation
• They didn't sence the problem with water since Maderas mooved. But they know that other neighboors complain.
• ~24 kW/month for well water. They pump very little
• In 1979 it was a very wet year. One concrete slab near the pump was removed. Pump was cased to protect it from rust (it is made out of cast iron)

• He has been living here for 7 years
• He relys 100% on well water
• He doesn't want to connect to city water. He doesn't want to pay for it, since it is too expensive
• The well depth is not known. The well produces 100 gal/min (he was told that, not sure). The well is 6"-6.5" in diameter
• He always have water
• He only has mechanical problems
• The well was drilled 12 years ago
• He uses softener for the tap water
• He has 5,000 gal tank
• No sediment in his water, and no iron
• This water is good to drink and doesn't need any treatment
• He is located ont he big feasure (he feels that it is here)
• He is on the east end of the valley
• There is a very small wash/creek on his property. It carries a lot of sediment and it is deep

• Uses only groundwater
• Does not have a hooup to city water; out of the question; wter meter is at 450 ft distance
• The rado is an easement
• has one well
• has lived 6 years on the property; previouly owned (9 + 9 + 6 + 2 = 26 years)
• Well drilled in 1997; depth 800 ft; pump at 560 ft
• The bore hole is to 800 ft
• water never failed
• in a copule of ocassions recovered in the summer

• 1974 bought the property
  
  1975 drilled the well
  
  1977 started building the house
  
  1978 moved in the house
• They nver have had an artesian well. Only one artesian well in the area in the 1980's
• First well was 350' deep, and was bandoned since it had no water
• Second well was drilled in the mid 80's. It had water Q=12 gal/min. The static level was 150'
• In 1983 he put a swiming pool, and the well went dry.He brought water for the swiming pool from an outside source
• He has replaced the pump about 4 or 5 times
• Now he has a reservoiur for 17.000 gal
• 1983-1984 he deepened the well.
• He drilled the well till 500' nd stoped. There were no water. Next day he drill till 504' and there was water Q=60 gal/min
• The well diameter is 5 5/8 "
• It worked very well
• In July 2007 the water tank was replaced, together with the well pump and the swiming pool pump
• They connected to the city water in July 2007. City water is used in the house including the swiming pool, and the well water is used for the rest (irrigation)
• Ground water is very high in calcium. He analyzed this water twice for the last 20 years
• He used to have a lot of grass, but not anymore (since fire)
• He redrilled his well, when it was producing only ~ 1-2 gal/min
• He counts on the well water
• House was burnet in October 2007. Since then, the bill for water is ~157$/bimonth
• He has 2.5 acres
• He doesn't have any avocado anymore, he didn't have enough water for them
• Melone was pumping a lot of water from the ground, as well as Sycamore Creek water. He had about 12 wells in the ;ate 80's early 90's
• Melone got water from Ramona reservouir. This water is clean, and the well water was salty.
• Now Melpne doesn't use groundwater. He claims that he only pumps ocasionally to keep the equipment running
• Sycamore Creek has been dry since the Ramona Reservoir was built
• When Melone was pumping heavily, in 2 weeks the well water was going down (level dropped significantly)
• Fire burnet a lot of his trees, and now he doesn't use a lot of water. He is not the biggest user of water in the region anymore
• Now the biggest water user in the valley is Maderas Golfclub
• There is ~ 78 lots in Heritage (~6 are empty) in old development
• There is about ~40 lots in the new development
• Membership of Maderas is less then 50 people
• All the Hertigae houses have the city water, but some of them have well in addition (~25 houses)
• There is ~ 60 well in the region (Maderas, Old Coach, Heritage)
• Fred Lawrence in Heritage has a well. It was 800' deep, and went dry, he drilled a new well 1200' and it produces very little water
• Wehn Maderas tested the wells, in Meyer's sink bubbles appeared
• House where Jessica Owens live is original. They a hand dug well ~18' deep. It went dry
• Homesteader had a lot of olive trees. Now some of them are in Kennedy's property
• In the late 1970's or early 1980's you could see water in the Old Coach test well(~20' deep)
• At the end of the year wehn the Thompson Creek was flowing the test well static level would rise ~20ft

• They have been living there since May 1985
• The well was already there
• The original well was redrilled ~200-300 ft. It was done only ones in 2007
• The original well was: 520' D=6.5" ~1980 August
• They got connections to city water, after fires in 2007. It was about ~$60K for the connection
• They use city water for the house, and well water for irrigation.
• The deepened well was 815' in 2010
• They pay ~$130/bimonthly
• Prior to city water, they drunk the well water, they filtered it. It was a very hard water
• 2.2 acres is the size of their property
• They have 5 trees (papaya, lemon)
• The squirrels eat the tree roots. Use green apple forpoisoning the animals
• They became consern of the lack of water in the past few years
• They started seriously worring about the water
• They had a 7,500 gal tank. Now they have 2,500 gal only. They don't need a lot of water
• Their house was burnet a little bit. Rebuild: decking, pumps, irrigation pipes, and a septic tank. The water tank was burnet a little bit too
• They connected to the city water because they were worried about the possibility of water meter limits in the area
• We might talk to these people (they can be helpful):
  
  Jeff and Chris Mangum. Their house was burnet. They are envolved in the city politics. His wife's father might know a lot because he lived with them
  
  Bridgwater. Their house was burnet too. The husband died. She lives in Rancho Bernardo
• Send video on the tragedy of the commons to Dr. Spier

• He rebuilt the house. He moved in March 2011
• The other house was burnet. He lived in it for 9 years, since 2003
• The house has only one well, and it is original
• Baesball player Howard Jhonson built the house, and had a well @ 250' deep
• He feels that he need to deepen the well
• His water has a lot of iron
• He had 2 reports on the water quality ( 5 months apart). We can see how the trend changes
• The water here tastes dirty
• He has only groundwater
• He doesn't have a city connection
• He has to pay 100,000$ for the city connection
• He is scared. The water is red, and he has 3 filter systems!
• The situation got worse with years
• He has 2 tanks: 10,000 gal (for fire system)
• He has 2 fruit trees
• 41.7 acres; 60% is unusable
• The wel is 12 years old
• He is loosing one tree per month. There is no water in Thompson Creek
• June 2010-March 2012 he lost 1.5 trees/month
• He had to cut 14 trees (from 2010)
• He also lost a lot of trees in the fire.
• Indicatiopn-if tree leeves are yellow, the tree will die
• He uses the wood to fire the house
• He had ~100 cords of wood. He uses ~1 cord/week
• They warm up the house every day. They used to buy wood, not anymore
• 3 yards=1 cord
• He haued out four (4) 40'x8'x8' containers of wood (in Feb 2008)
• He didn't see any oal boar.
• Trees died to the fire and also due to fungus.
• He doesn't measure his well. He doesn't have problems with pumping. He has a steady draft of water.
• Water is dissapearing from this area. His pumps sucks a lot of sediment/dirt. Quantaty is very scarse.
• Water looks yellow. House system circulate constantly and it settles a little bit.
• The water is really bad
• He wants to install the fourth filter system
• He already has a reverse osmosis in the house
• EWSWATER.COM is the manufacturer's of his filter system website
• These gusy want to satisfy him.
• He will send us the info about the water and the filters
• City wants people to use more groundwater, because they want to cut down the usage of surface water. CA wants to conserve the surface water
• He has a windmill 200-300$/month (generates electricity)
• Also, he has solar panels for water heating. He pays 1,000$/month for electricity

• Well Test on Old Coach road is on his property
• He doesn't live on the property for 2 years. He lives two blocks into the Heritage
• He has a wel in the Heritage
• The house is in Escrow
• Has 2 wells. The old well is abandoned
• He doesn't have a tank.
• He doesn't know the depth of the well. Maybe ~600 ft
• He drinks the water, and it tastes fien.
• He has some mechanica problems
• He has never run out of water

• She has been living in the property for 37 years
• She moved here when there were only 4 residents (1975)
• She has three wells. They were rebuilt.
• She is the second owner. Old coach Finanial owned 300 acres
• In 1996 she got the third well. It is the only operational now
• The well os 300 ft deep. Just lowered the pump, @ 350 ft now
• She uses the city water for the house, and ground water for irrigation
• She pays 54 dollars bimonthly for water
• the well water was hard from the begginnning, she always used a commercial softener
• The level was @ 160 ft on 3/20/1996

• lived in poway since 1985
• well drilled to 1000 ft in 2010
• two wells, 1 well 6" to 55 ft
• one tank burned down
• house did not burn
• 5000 gallon X 2
• 12000 gallon X 2
• first well on creek bed
• second well by guest house
• first well 30 gpm
• second well 5 gpm
• brought in city water by 2005
• paid to connect city water
• water for pool from well
• $1500 bimonthly city water bill
• the wells may be reaching their limit

• 1 well, about 650 ft.

• always had water

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